This week they discuss some of the latest news from a particular conference held out in Washington DC last week which Mike stopped by (well, the lobby bar) and Rich used to help run.
Rich and Adrian join up to talk about some interesting developments in Apple privacy, and how Apple may be using it to get some competitive advantage.
The question of the day is: Are we in a Sputnik moment? Did the Target breach shake things up so much that security is moving up the chain? Or are these short-term reactions, which will fade with our memories of what happened?